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# freeseek4 — experiment log & next steps
## Completed (all negative, but informative)
| # | Experiment | Result | Root Cause |
|---|-----------|--------|-------------|
| 1 | `fp8_e4m3` KV-cache | ❌ ERROR | Ampere A10G lacks `fp8e4nv` dtype — hardware limitation |
| 2 | `turboquant` (bare) | ❌ ERROR | Wrong flag name → revelaed actual presets: `turboquant_3bit_nc`, `turboquant_4bit_nc`, `turboquant_k3v4_nc`, `turboquant_k8v4`, `int8_per_token_head`, `nvfp4` |
| 3 | `int8_per_token_head` KV-cache | ❌ ERROR | Page size mismatch with Gemma4 mixed head_dim (256/512) — known vLLM issue #40388 |
| 4 | `turboquant_3bit_nc` KV-cache | ❌ ERROR | `TRITON_ATTN` backend incompatible with turboquant KV-cache dtype |
**Key finding:** KV-cache quantization on A10G + Gemma 4 E4B appears blocked. All 4 fp8/int8/turboquant variants fail for different architectural reasons, all known bugs or hardware limits.
## Running
| # | Experiment | Status |
|---|-----------|--------|
| 5 | `onegraph-pck04-dev381-baseline-v0` | 🟡 RUNNING | Pure wheel A/B — frontier stack (onegraph + PCK04 + MTP spec7 + all PLE/SMP patches) on newer vLLM dev381 wheel (74 commits since dev307). No KV-cache changes. Isolates wheel-level TPS delta. |
## Surveyed but not pursued
- **FA4 for Gemma 4** (PR #42175): Hopper/Blackwell only, falls back to Triton on Ampere — no benefit for A10G
- **DFlash** (PR #44586): No drafter exists for E4B variant; only 31B and 26B-A4B have published drafters
- **Newer dev381 wheel features**: Most performance improvements are Hopper-targeted or multi-GPU
## Planned next
1. **`--compilation-config '{"cudagraph_mode": "FULL_AND_PIECEWISE"}'`** — captures the target model's decode step into CUDA graphs alongside the onegraph MTP drafter. Ampere-compatible, no KV-cache involved. Highest priority.
2. If dev381 baseline shows a TPS gain over dev307 → consider `--compilation-config` on dev381.
3. If KV-cache lane can be unblocked → try `turboquant_k3v4_nc` (most aggressive Ampere-safe preset) with a different attention backend.
Happy to collaborate — if anyone has theories on unblocking KV-cache quant on Ampere, ping me.

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