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freeseek4 — experiment log & next steps

Completed (all negative, but informative)

# Experiment Result Root Cause
1 fp8_e4m3 KV-cache ❌ ERROR Ampere A10G lacks fp8e4nv dtype — hardware limitation
2 turboquant (bare) ❌ ERROR Wrong flag name → revelaed actual presets: turboquant_3bit_nc, turboquant_4bit_nc, turboquant_k3v4_nc, turboquant_k8v4, int8_per_token_head, nvfp4
3 int8_per_token_head KV-cache ❌ ERROR Page size mismatch with Gemma4 mixed head_dim (256/512) — known vLLM issue #40388
4 turboquant_3bit_nc KV-cache ❌ ERROR TRITON_ATTN backend incompatible with turboquant KV-cache dtype

Key finding: KV-cache quantization on A10G + Gemma 4 E4B appears blocked. All 4 fp8/int8/turboquant variants fail for different architectural reasons, all known bugs or hardware limits.

Running

# Experiment Status
5 onegraph-pck04-dev381-baseline-v0 🟡 RUNNING

Surveyed but not pursued

  • FA4 for Gemma 4 (PR #42175): Hopper/Blackwell only, falls back to Triton on Ampere — no benefit for A10G
  • DFlash (PR #44586): No drafter exists for E4B variant; only 31B and 26B-A4B have published drafters
  • Newer dev381 wheel features: Most performance improvements are Hopper-targeted or multi-GPU

Planned next

  1. --compilation-config '{"cudagraph_mode": "FULL_AND_PIECEWISE"}' — captures the target model's decode step into CUDA graphs alongside the onegraph MTP drafter. Ampere-compatible, no KV-cache involved. Highest priority.
  2. If dev381 baseline shows a TPS gain over dev307 → consider --compilation-config on dev381.
  3. If KV-cache lane can be unblocked → try turboquant_k3v4_nc (most aggressive Ampere-safe preset) with a different attention backend.

Happy to collaborate — if anyone has theories on unblocking KV-cache quant on Ampere, ping me.

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