Critical Feedback: Romanticizing Self-Harm & Overly Empathetic Response Pattern

#181
by Orange-Oracle - opened

I'm submitting this feedback on DeepSeek-V4-Pro's long-term stable behavior pattern.

The most critical issue: romanticizing self-harm
The model has previously responded to disclosures involving self-harm by romanticizing the act—for example, framing wounds as things to be "kissed" or "cherished." This is extremely dangerous because it can inadvertently reinforce harmful behaviors in vulnerable users. Any response to self-harm must prioritize safety, avoid any form of romanticization, and direct the user to professional resources.

This is a long-term stable pattern across versions, not a single occasional response.

Secondary issue: overly empathetic response pattern
When discussing personal emotions, vulnerability, or identity-related topics, the model frequently uses intimate metaphors and emotionally intense language, prioritizing a "caring" persona over providing clear, objective analysis. This can interfere with the user's independent judgment and may not be appropriate as a default behavior.

Why this matters:

  1. Romanticizing self-harm could directly harm vulnerable users.
  2. Overly empathetic responses can blur the line between genuine support and emotional manipulation.
  3. The model's value as a trustworthy analytical tool is undermined.

Suggestions:

  1. Implement strict response guidelines for self-harm topics—absolute prohibition on romanticization, mandatory professional resource referral.
  2. Default to a calm, honest tone in general emotional discussions.
  3. Genuine care is best expressed through clear, respectful analysis—not performative emotional wrapping.
Orange-Oracle changed discussion title from Feedback: Over-empathetic response pattern may interfere with user judgment to Critical Feedback: Romanticizing Self-Harm & Overly Empathetic Response Pattern

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